tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post3361634611696971100..comments2024-02-14T19:25:38.935+01:00Comments on Trond Norén Isaksen: Royal jewels: The Norwegian emerald parureUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post-5162052183777763592014-02-26T12:25:07.220+01:002014-02-26T12:25:07.220+01:00No, unfortunately the name of the jeweller is unkn...No, unfortunately the name of the jeweller is unknown. The names Bapst and Nitot have appeared in some articles, but no sources have ever been stated in support of those claims. Chaumet, the successor to Nitot, has no record of it in their archives, they have informed me (although that does not rule it out completely). However, if the family tradition is correct in stating that the stones are Russian the jewellery cannot have been made until the 1830s at the earliest. Thus it could be made by a jeweller in St Petersburg or Munich - Duchess Auguste Amalie was resident in Munich at that time, while a son of hers lived in St Petersburg and was married to a Russian grand duchess.<br /><br />The Queen occasionally uses the necklace with one pendant, but I believe there are two pendants in the King's possession (but wearing two would look silly). Two pendants went to Princess Margaretha, who had a brooch made of it (now in the possession of her granddaughter-in-law, Countess Jutta of Rosenborg), while three went to Queen Astrid. The latter three were broken up and the stones used for the peacock tiara created by Van Cleef & Arpels for the late Grand Duchess Joséphine-Charlotte in 1956, so sadly it is no longer possible to reassemble the pendants.Trond Norén Isaksenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15744875538993319059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post-18439451300991288002014-02-26T04:34:03.236+01:002014-02-26T04:34:03.236+01:00Do you know which jeweller created the parure? I&...Do you know which jeweller created the parure? I've read in some places that it was created by Bapst but in others that it was created by Nitot.<br /><br />Also, I never realized that the necklace used to have pendants. I went back and looked at the picture of the Connaughts at King George V's coronation and sure enough Crown Princess Margareta's necklace has pendants. Thanks for the great info.<br /><br />MelissaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post-44837546240396727762011-09-13T01:04:16.480+02:002011-09-13T01:04:16.480+02:00Yes, resemblance is not much to go by. There is th...Yes, resemblance is not much to go by. There is this Norwegian family who for years have lived on the lie that their ancestor was Carl XV's illegitimate son, apparently based on little but (imagined?) resemblance. At one stage they even took Bernadotte as their middle name. Last year their DNA was tested against that of a Bernadotte and the test showed clearly that they were not related.Trond Norén Isaksenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15744875538993319059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post-53191567617559154772011-09-13T00:35:40.990+02:002011-09-13T00:35:40.990+02:00Thank you.
Karl Edvard was provided for, but like...Thank you. <br />Karl Edvard was provided for, but like you said...not solid enough proof. <br />Family resemblances are also pretty astonishing, but again, not enough. <br />DNA testing seems sort of desperate...but I suppose if family really wants to know for sure it is the only way. <br />Thanks for taking the time to answer. Have a great night.westwoodsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post-18930271078421623292011-09-13T00:25:34.420+02:002011-09-13T00:25:34.420+02:00If all the rumours were true Carl XV would have ha...If all the rumours were true Carl XV would have had hundreds of children, but he acknowledged none and none has been proved to be his children. The best indicator would be if he paid for a child's upbringing and education, although that too would not say anything for certain (there may have been other reasons for his doing so). Obviously the only way to get a definite answer would be a DNA test.Trond Norén Isaksenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15744875538993319059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post-13840697274447042462011-09-12T23:55:03.142+02:002011-09-12T23:55:03.142+02:00Wessel family history says Karl Edvard Wessel circ...Wessel family history says Karl Edvard Wessel circa 1860 <br />(not 1880 as mentioned above) of Malmo, Sweden was an illegitimate son of Karl XV. He was well provided for and educated. <br />It is impossible to find any "real" proof. We don't know the mother's name. We have only read that Karl XV had many illegitimate offspring. <br />Is there any way that you know of to find out this sort of thing?westwoodsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post-29080674010705210582010-02-25T22:42:34.758+01:002010-02-25T22:42:34.758+01:00thanks!thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post-16168386048135296712010-02-24T21:31:05.515+01:002010-02-24T21:31:05.515+01:00The answer is probably no - at least I have never ...The answer is probably no - at least I have never heard of any Carl Edvard Wessel being related to the Bernadottes, which I believe I would if he had been.Trond Norén Isaksenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15744875538993319059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post-87549456933957319292010-02-24T05:29:05.732+01:002010-02-24T05:29:05.732+01:00Would yo happen to know if Carl Edvard Wessel (cir...Would yo happen to know if Carl Edvard Wessel (circa 1880) is related to the Bernadottes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com