tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post3400083615735316838..comments2024-02-14T19:25:38.935+01:00Comments on Trond Norén Isaksen: Princess Madeleine is pregnantUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post-90274081676627712622013-09-12T20:49:09.126+02:002013-09-12T20:49:09.126+02:00Thank you, I had not seen that yet - I think I sha...Thank you, I had not seen that yet - I think I shall make a post about it later.Trond Norén Isaksenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15744875538993319059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post-47390963287358915132013-09-12T20:30:01.344+02:002013-09-12T20:30:01.344+02:00Addendum: The Swedish king’s attorney, Axel Caliss...Addendum: The Swedish king’s attorney, Axel Calissendorff, concurs with your interpretation, having disclosed his stance in a comment to Svensk Damtidning: The child will enter into the line of succession at birth, but must be raised within Sweden in order to retain her or his rights to the throne. (Calissendorff moreover states that the child will be a prince or princess and bear the style of Royal Highness.)Enoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post-41829449937455300792013-09-06T12:24:51.133+02:002013-09-06T12:24:51.133+02:00The wording is clumsy indeed, but for the reasons ...The wording is clumsy indeed, but for the reasons outlined above I think that is a reasonable interpretation. You may also note that TT, the Swedish news agency, has interpreted it in the same way as I.Trond Norén Isaksenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15744875538993319059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post-25177070079126627952013-09-06T05:25:46.016+02:002013-09-06T05:25:46.016+02:00Indeed, but the wording is illogical according to ...Indeed, but the wording is illogical according to either interpretation (if the consequences are identical in both situations, it is difficult to see why one penalty is explicitly stated and the other is not). <br /><br />On a similar note, the Act of Succession prior to 1980 oddly barred Swedish princesses from marrying without consent, despite the dearth of consequences. <br /><br />I hope you do not mind my occasional ventured corrections; your blog has always been quite informative and detailed and my suggestions are meant helpfully.Enoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post-39971421681545462822013-09-06T01:02:54.434+02:002013-09-06T01:02:54.434+02:00I sort of fail to see the point of including that ...I sort of fail to see the point of including that stipulation unless there are consequences, but all right, to give it the benefit of doubt I can change "stipulates" to "indicates".Trond Norén Isaksenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15744875538993319059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post-3178012301614862432013-09-05T19:27:00.912+02:002013-09-05T19:27:00.912+02:00I can see where you are coming from, but I think t...I can see where you are coming from, but I think that "stipulates" may perhaps be too strong of a word, as it seems to me that the opposite interpretation is equally reasonable (i.e., that had exclusion from the succession been the designated consequence of not being brought up in Sweden, it would have been explicitly stated, as it was for the faith restriction: "Any member of the Royal Family not professing this faith shall be excluded from all rights of succession."), and the Act's phrasing is rather ambiguous.Enoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post-55607843695140691262013-09-05T15:39:29.944+02:002013-09-05T15:39:29.944+02:00It is in article 4, which says that the King must ...It is in article 4, which says that the King must belong to the Lutheran faith and that "princes and princesses of the royal house shall be brought up in the same faith and within the realm". Then it goes on to say that those members of the royal family which do not belong to that faith are excluded from the succession. So although it is not said explicitly what consequences it will have not to be brought up in Sweden, I think it is a reasonable interpretation to say that being brought up in Sweden is a requirement for being able to succeed to the throne.Trond Norén Isaksenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15744875538993319059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post-70534716979770672532013-09-05T15:28:51.386+02:002013-09-05T15:28:51.386+02:00The Act of Succession also stipulates that princes...<i>The Act of Succession also stipulates that princes and princesses who are not brought up in Sweden forfeit their succession rights</i><br /><br />Are you certain of this? I cannot locate such a provision in the English translation of the Act of Succession.Enoreply@blogger.com