tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post2822570832450575398..comments2024-02-14T19:25:38.935+01:00Comments on Trond Norén Isaksen: Another Bernadotte exhibition at the National MuseumUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post-47004063273598187452010-08-07T20:27:25.754+02:002010-08-07T20:27:25.754+02:00Well, regarding your first point I could again men...Well, regarding your first point I could again mention that the photo of Magnus Brahe is very much similar. But perhaps we should conclude that the question is open to doubt.<br /><br />Unfortunately there are no photos of Carl XIV Johan. This might have had to do with his being old and not particularly open to new ideas, but also with his being very vain and therefore probably not very keen on documenting for posterity what he really looked like in old age.<br /><br />The same goes for his widow Queen Desideria, who lived till 1860, but always refused to be photographed. The only photo on which she appears is thus taken on her deathbed and that was not published until more than a century after her death.Trond Norén Isaksenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15744875538993319059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post-58432327193894742002010-08-05T01:22:45.543+02:002010-08-05T01:22:45.543+02:00Thank you for the extra information. Excuse my st...Thank you for the extra information. Excuse my stubborn scepticism, but light fell on the skin differently with daguerreotypes and this looks, to me, too much like a two-dimensional image (you might like to compare it with other 1840s daguerreotype images - e.g. of King Louis-Philippe). I am willing to accord that this is the first photographed *image* of a Bernodotte; but that this is a direct photograph image of Oscar I is, I think, too great a leap of faith. After all, as you say, the technique was practised in the palace in 1843 before the prince's family. It would be indeed be nice if this were Derville's 1844 portrait but I think this is more probably a practice portrait of a portrait. The 1843 and 1844 portraits have still to be discovered in my opinion - and the discovery will be all the more interesting for all that!<br />What would b the 'holy grail', would be a daguerreotype of King Charles XIV John!Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post-42912161756685682662010-08-04T20:32:52.466+02:002010-08-04T20:32:52.466+02:00The bad state of the picture may accord for some d...The bad state of the picture may accord for some doubt, but we know that the daguerrotype technique was demonstrated for the royal family in the Hereditary Prince's Palace as early as 1840 and there is documentary proof that Oscar I and his family sat for the photographer Joseph Weninger on 25 June 1843 and for another one, called Derville, in the middle of May 1844. There is also a surviving photo of Count Magnus Brahe, the Marshal of the Realm, which must be from the latter occasion (he died just thereafter) and is quite similar to the one of Oscar I posted above.Trond Norén Isaksenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15744875538993319059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post-79996038713076847402010-08-04T00:19:35.975+02:002010-08-04T00:19:35.975+02:00I agree with 'Nick'.I agree with 'Nick'.Edward Smythe-Fortescuenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post-24894959169440520632010-08-03T13:46:10.999+02:002010-08-03T13:46:10.999+02:00http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/89859303/Hulto...http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/89859303/Hulton-Archive?language=en-GB&location=GBR<br />This link shows lithograph of Oscar I dating from 1844. It is a perfect match with the photograph. And given the rarety of photographs in the 1840s it is more likely that the photo was taken of the lithograph/painting than of the king himself, as an experiment. <br />But are there any documentary records that the king sat for a photograph at this time?Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post-72814765836673831602010-08-03T13:38:38.044+02:002010-08-03T13:38:38.044+02:00Has anybody commented on this already? It does lo...Has anybody commented on this already? It does look like a painting that has been photographed and very unlike other photos from that period. A comparison with other portraits of Oscar I will show this. Who verified the photo as such? Probably more careful research is needed!Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post-9577064202752406062010-08-03T00:17:49.970+02:002010-08-03T00:17:49.970+02:00You are wrong, it is indeed a photo of Oscar I, no...You are wrong, it is indeed a photo of Oscar I, not a photo of a portrait. And please respect the rule that comments should be signed - preferably by a name, but an initial or a nick will also be accepted.Trond Norén Isaksenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15744875538993319059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4897554020551470090.post-64990023895039189242010-08-02T22:47:22.241+02:002010-08-02T22:47:22.241+02:00Sorry but this looks like a photograph of a portra...Sorry but this looks like a photograph of a portrait rather than an actual photographAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com